We talk about STEM all the time. Well, since half of STEM is math and science, it stands to reason that a doctoral program that has both of those in it might be fairly important. The Washington State University College of Education has just that. The Mathematics and Science Education program is led by Dave Slavit, at WSU Vancouver, though the students are scattered all over the state. We talked briefly with Dr. Slavit, what the current math and science landscape is in our country and why this program stands to make a huge difference for both the doctoral students, as well as the individuals whom they do and will serve.